Profile photo of Howard Tobochnik from Substack Clarity with Michael Oren

American turned Israeli soldier interviewed on NPR : Palestinians are very different from you and me

Profile photo of Howard Tobochnik from Substack Clarity with Michael Oren

Your correspondent has been communicating about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with a family friend’s son since he made aliyah to Israel about 7 years ago. He is now making his opinions and beliefs known on national media so I think it is timely to share historical context about his beliefs.  August 6, 2024

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“Here are my thoughts… two IMPORTANT concepts to keep in mind when thinking about and discussing this issue.

First, there is A LOT of propaganda from both the Israelis and the Palestinians. Let me define propaganda. Each side has their real reasons for what they do and believe, but what they tell the world is not necessarily their real reasons, but instead what will make sense to you. They need to convince you, an American who cannot possibly relate to their situation, to take their side. So the Jews use the holocaust, saying Jews  have faced antisemitism all over the world for all of history, and thus need a safe country of their own to live. This is partially true, but that’s not Zionism and that wasn’t the main reason either. The Palestinians list as their grievences: Boarders, settlements, Jerusalem as the capital, refugees. These are all legitimate grievances, but none of these are the main grievance. That means that even if Israel fixed every single one of these issues, there would not be peace because the main issue, which no American would relate with, has not been solved in their eyes.

Second, and I alluded to this in number 1, don’t ever assume that what makes sense to you, what is logical and obvious to you, is the same for the Palestinians. They come from a hugely different culture. Here is an example of what I mean, but using a different group that also was extreme. The Japanese during WWII. A mother would give her son a dagger before he went off to war in China and tell him that if he is captured, use this knife to kill himself. Death is infinitely better than the shame of being captured. And surrender or retreat is unthinkable. No American mother would ever do this. Now back to the Palestinians. They also have extreme views on martydom. But that’s not the only thing they view differently from you, there are thousands of other little examples. Just the other day someone said to me, “true, Iran is a threat, but they’d be crazy to attack Israel. They’d get obliterated by Israel or the Americans.”  What he didn’t understand is that the ultra- religious  Iran doesn’t calculate the pros and cons of a situation like you and me. They quite possibly will reject a deal that is too good to be true, and engage in a conflict that is ridiculously stupid and risky. Why? Because their values, life and death, motivation are different. I can think of more concrete examples if you would like, but I hope my point is clear. Real quick, a lighter example. I was with a guy, 23 years old, when he touched a dog for the first time in his life! Can you imagine that? Probably not. But most Muslims never touch dogs.

I’m all for peace. But you have to be realistic as well. Ghandi and MLK were great. Go pacifism! But that only worked because of the tolerance and morality of the US and British leadership. In Nazi Germany or Hamas’ Gaza, those guys would be dead in a minute.Gone without any influence whatsoever.  Every situation is different and requires a unique approach that takes into consideration many variables of history, culture, time, place, and so much more. What worked and seems logical in one conflict is not necessarily applicable or usefull in another. And the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is intense and complicated.” [STETs not marked]

September 23, 2018

INTERVIEW with Aya Batrawy, on NPR July 9, 2024

Chestnut Hill neighbors weigh in on NextDoor polls

Since September, your correspondent has been posting polls on NextDoor to inform and learn from the community, to take its pulse and to move the community on issues near and dear to him. As few as four and as many as 330 people have voted in these polls with naming the bookstore and a ban or leafblowers being the most popular. See more about NextDoor at the end of this post.

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Nov 3 POLL: DO YOU SUPPORT PROTECT THE VOTE RALLIES BEGINNING NOV 4?

Takeaway: Most support the rallies but after 16 people registered their choice, NextDoor shut down commenting but left one comment from a detractor standing. It may also have closed voting in the poll. Here's the poll link

 

ND Protect the Results 2020-11-03 at 4.31.16 PM

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Nov 2 POLL: WHAT IS YOUR TOP NOV 3 ELECTION CONCERN?

Takeaway: Before the poll was taken down only hours after  its posting, 17 people voted, many citing counting of mail-in ballots as top concern. 3 or 4 people had grumbled about the post as harmfully sowing anxiety.

20201102 ND election concerns

WHAT IS YOUR TOP NOV 3 ELECTION CONCERN?Our State Rep Chris Rabb and a local computer expert don’t believe our electronic voting system is secure. https://youtu.be/2n9uraDCSng
And there are news reports of confusion over PA’s mail in ballots counting https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/02/us/politics/Pennsylvania-presidential-election.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage . Some polling places are bracing for possible voter intimidation http://www.pikecountycourier.com/news/local-news/open-carry-and-voter-intimidation-what-does-pa-law-say-DC1370036 Of course you have voted or are going to BUT WHAT IS YOUR TOP NOV 3 ELECTION CONCERN?

Mail-in ballots may not be accurately counted

Electronic voting system may be hacked

Irregularities at polling stations may negatively impact the count

Other (See my comment)

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Nov 1 POLL: DO ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS?

Takeaway: the NextDoor algorithm may have made this the last visible post on anyone's news feed

20201101 Actions words
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Oct 27 POLL: HOMELESS IN MOUNT AIRY – IS THERE A RIGHT TO HOUSING?

Takeaway: 40% believe not or are unsure and since children are people, that means that nearly half are unwilling to say that children have a human right to housing.

20201027 right to housing

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Oct 21 POLL: WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE OCT 22 CHESTNUT HILL LOCAL?

Takeaway:  A fair amount worth saying something about. (In the 10/29 edition  there is a help wanted ad for an associate editor.)

20201021 wrong with local

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Oct 21 POLL: DO GOOD FENCES MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS?

Takeaway: You will know your good neighbor by the good fence they build between you and them

Real real fences


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Oct 9 POLL: DO YOU SUPPORT BLACK LIVES MATTER OR BACK THE BLUE?

Takeaway: Of 133 votes, less than a third believe it is possible to support both

20201009 BLM BTB

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Oct 6 POLL: WOULD YOU ATTEND A (VIRTUAL) CHESTNUT HILL TOWN HALL AND WHO MIGHT HOST?

Takeaway: There is only some interest in a virtual town hall and even less interest in the question

20201006 town hall

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Oct 5 POLL: NAME THE BOOKSTORE, THE FINALISTS ARE…

Takeaway: By a considerable plurality but with only a third as many people voting in this finalists poll as in the original poll, the peoples really like "Books on the Hill"

20201005 name bookstore finalists

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Oct 2 POLL: Should the CDC require face masks?

Takeaway:  The people have spoken; make facemasks the law nationwide

20201002 cdc fase masks

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Sept 28 POLL: I'M SORRY: WHAT ARE YOU SORRY ABOUT FOR POSTING ON NEXTDOOR?

Takeaway: For the most part, NextDoor users stand by what they posted

20200928Sorry

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Sep 25 POLL: IS COVID-19 POSTER AT POST OFFICE MISLEADING?

Takeaway: If you've posted to a NextDoor group with only 6 members don't expect more than 6 responses

20200925 cdc poster misleading

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Sep 18 POLL: POLICE PERMANENTLY PARKED  TOP OF THE HILL? PROTECTING BANKS OR PEOPLE?

Takeaway: Most people believe the police presence at the top of the Hill benefits some combination of the public and small businesses but 25% believe they are there at the bank or banks' behest. The police have not responded to a request for clarification.

20200918 police cars

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Sep 15: NAME THE BOOKSTORE, THE CH LIBRARY FRIENDS WANT YOUR IDEAS

Takeaway: 324 people and likely more with opinions is giving the Friends Board pause before deciding on a name

20200915 name bookstore

 

Sep 4 POLL: SHOULD WE BAN OR RESTRICT GAS POWERED LEAF BLOWERS?

Takeaway: About half or more people would consider a ban or restrictions on gas powered leaf blowers

ND leafblowers with results

Writers read aloud – 2013 Chestnut Hill Book Festival

Philadelphia Stories

Above: Olin and Shirley Gentry

Philadelphia Stories Presents: Local Literary Voices was one of three events hosted by Philadelphia Stories at the Chestnut Hill Book Festival on Sunday September 22, 2013. Philadelphia Stories is a non-profit organization dedicated to building a community of “writers, artists and readers” in the Delaware Valley through literary magazines, events such as the Book Festival readings and educational programs.
At the Chestnut Hill fest, Philadelphia Stories local authors talked about and read from their works. Unfortunately your correspondent’s video phone battery died before the program finished and he failed to capture the beautiful funny reading by Hal Sirowitz and readings from the open mic portion of the program. So Sorry!
See Bios of authors below

A video of the readings can be seen here.

  A slideshow of photos of the festival can be seen here

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Daniel Torday, appearing at the Chestnut Hill Book Festival reads from his novel to be published by St Martin's Press in 2015. Forming part of the novel about the narrator's uncle , a Hungarian Jew who flew on bombing missions for the Royal Air Force during WW II is his recently published, award-winning novella, "The Sensualist." Watch video here.

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200 Years of Latino History in Philadelphia

Sabrina Vourvoulias, editor of 200 Years of Latino History in Philadelphia by the staff of Al Dia newspaper talks about the book. Watch video here.
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These are the short bios of the presenting writers appearing on the
Philadelphia Stories website. http://www.philadelphiastories.org/chestnut-hill-book-festival-workshops-kids-reading